Can we stop talking about towers in New York? They aren't relevant.


edit: I hope that doesn't get me another snippy PM from another member accusing me of always making "smart ass comments" and how that they have forgotten more about the development and construction industry than I will ever know and then locked the conversation so I couldn't reply.
 
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Can we stop talking about towers in New York? They aren't relevant.

Personally and ironically, I feel the people who're complaining about the lack of (visible) change on this site are the same people with an inferiority complex towards Toronto about New York.

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Well, that and the Mizrahi bashers—some of whom I'm convinced have a vested interest in the Khavari lawsuit.
 
Look at colour and detail of this supertall that they're building in Brooklyn's downtown core in the photo up above ! Makes you wonder why we can't have something similar here .

Well, I said it before and got lots of trouble, even one of my comments was deleted.
Fact, some cities takes pride in architecture and demand more from developers and that is why we always see something beautiful and original outside Toronto.
In Toronto, they might propose something original and nice initially to deceive buyers to show interest, and then water it down to a basic glass slab by the time of final approval.
It has been going on for years and they get away with it.
 
somemidtowner work is happening at 45 broad street. here is another pic of workers at the site.

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That doesn't change the fact that the site was dead for over 2 years after a ground breaking. Just explaining why your example doesn't work at all, not arguing what the status of 45 Broad is
 
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Well, I said it before and got lots of trouble, even one of my comments was deleted.
Fact, some cities takes pride in architecture and demand more from developers and that is why we always see something beautiful and original outside Toronto.
In Toronto, they might propose something original and nice initially to deceive buyers to show interest, and then water it down to a basic glass slab by the time of final approval.
It has been going on for years and they get away with it.

You always see something beautiful outside of Toronto because you choose to only see and focus on the good, and don’t look for the bad. It’s easier to see the bad when you live somewhere and see it everyday.
 
If one example wasn't enough I dug up another example of complicated engineering that is 9 DeKalb in Brooklyn, broke ground in March 2017. I read about 10 pages and just three people had concerns that this building is on hold but were told "its meticulous work".

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Enough with the other-project posts please. Work is proceeding well at The One, the mega-caissons are complete, and we're going to see lots of activity shortly with the start of a new phase of work.
Look at colour and detail of this supertall that they're building in Brooklyn's downtown core in the photo up above ! Makes you wonder why we can't have something similar here .
Ironic that you complain about colour in a thread about a building that's going to have a colour we don't normally see.
Well, I said it before and got lots of trouble, even one of my comments was deleted.
Fact, some cities takes pride in architecture and demand more from developers and that is why we always see something beautiful and original outside Toronto.
In Toronto, they might propose something original and nice initially to deceive buyers to show interest, and then water it down to a basic glass slab by the time of final approval.
It has been going on for years and they get away with it.
And still you're going on about the grass always being greener everywhere else, when it's only select buildings in any cities that rise above the crowd. Nothing you claim is endemic to Toronto, the good and the bad (and mostly the average) are found alongside each other world-wide.

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If people don't like what's going up here you're always welcome to go to skyscrapercity and gawk at the massive New York and Chinese builds but can we keep it Toronto builds here? This one is exciting.
 
Every city in the world has good and bad architecture all mixed up in their core.
The reality is, most of their tallest buildings always seem iconic, well designed and original especially in cities known for skyscrapers
The problem with Toronto is, we do not have heritage landmarks tall enough to mix up with the bland Glass buildings so additional efforts needed to encourage tasteful architecture and originality.
 
Every city in the world has good and bad architecture all mixed up in their core.
The reality is, most of their tallest buildings always seem iconic, well designed and original especially in cities known for skyscrapers
The problem with Toronto is, we do not have heritage landmarks tall enough to mix up with the bland Glass buildings so additional efforts needed to encourage tasteful architecture and originality.


(I swear, I'm forced to use this video like once a month)
 
Every city in the world has good and bad architecture all mixed up in their core.
The reality is, most of their tallest buildings always seem iconic, well designed and original especially in cities known for skyscrapers
The problem with Toronto is, we do not have heritage landmarks tall enough to mix up with the bland Glass buildings so additional efforts needed to encourage tasteful architecture and originality.
You mean like the structure that held the title of world's tallest for 30+ years? Or the 50+ year old TD Centre? What do you consider "heritage" in a medium (skyscraper) that's barely 100 years old?

As for New York being some paragon in choosing great architectural pieces to grace its skyline:


There's a reason these lists exist.

I swear, there are some who would rather Toronto be a skyline of architectural pornstar manhood, instead of being a functional, livable city. I prefer the latter.

Addendum: You'll note that 432 Park Avenue is on two of those lists, and it's NYC's second tallest.
 
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