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This is a cool concept that has been explored in the US. Now MTB Transit Solutions is offering a conversion service to battery-electric. The process takes about six months and is supposed to cost up to half as much as a brand new electric bus.

The bus on display was formerly a Hamilton bus built in, I believe, 2006.

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Looks like MTB have their first diesel to electric conversion customer with Milton Transit.

 
Looks like MTB have their first diesel to electric conversion customer with Milton Transit.

This makes good use out of existing bus frames which are stainless steel. And the carbon to build the raw materials can be saved.

We are going to have a bunch of Orion VII hybrids retiring. Maybe we can reuse those frames, minus the cracked frame issue.
 
This makes good use out of existing bus frames which are stainless steel. And the carbon to build the raw materials can be saved.

We are going to have a bunch of Orion VII hybrids retiring. Maybe we can reuse those frames, minus the cracked frame issue.
When the Orion hybrids were new, I remember a mechanic friend mentioning how it would theoretically be possible to convert them to fully electronic. No transmission and the engine just acts as a generator. Seventeen years later, BAE Systems offers a fully electric system and companies are experimenting with converting buses to electric. I just thought that was neat.

The Orion hybrids may be too old to convert, though. Most are reaching 18 years old. But some of the GMs almost made it to 30 years, so I dunno. I guess what ever makes financial sense.
 
TTC adds 336 new hybrid-electric buses to its fleet

April 19, 2023

The TTC is receiving the first of 336 additional hybrid-electric buses as part of its transition to a completely zero-emissions fleet. These comfortable, reliable, and eco-friendly buses, which begin arriving this month, will enter service in May after undergoing inspection and testing. This process will continue through to early next year.

All of these vehicles will replace existing buses that have reached the end of their useful life, including 68 sixty-foot hybrid-electric buses, which will replace older forty-foot buses, adding significant capacity to the fleet and reducing travel times. These buses will be based out of the TTC’s Mount Dennis and Wilson divisions and will serve routes in midtown, downtown, North York, and Etobicoke.

“Hybrid-electric buses offer residents and visitors a clean, quiet, and healthy alternative to travel around our city,” said Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie. “These new buses demonstrate the City of Toronto’s continued efforts to reduce our cumulative carbon footprint, shape a sustainable city, and achieve our goal of net zero emissions by 2040.”

The TTC Green Bus Technology Plan, approved by the Board in Nov. 2017, includes the procurement of low-emissions hybrid-electric buses ending in 2024, and only zero-emissions buses starting in 2025. The target is to have an entirely zero-emissions fleet by 2040. This is a critical step in the City of Toronto’s TransformTO Net Zero Strategy and is aligned with international commitments through the Fossil-Fuel-Free Streets Declaration.

“We are very pleased to be moving forward with our sustainability goals, while also providing a better transit experience for our customers,” said TTC Chair Jon Burnside. “The arrival of additional hybrid buses means fewer greenhouse gas emissions, improved air quality, and newer vehicles for our customers and employees.”

“The TTC is committed to being completely zero-emissions by 2040 or sooner,” said TTC CEO Rick Leary. “As eBus technology is still developing, we’ve purchased hybrid-electric buses, which are a proven transition technology. With the addition of these new, modern vehicles to our fleet, we are well on our way to achieving our goals while continuing to focus on delivering reliable service.”

Today’s hybrid bus is as close as possible to being a fully battery-electric bus (eBus) as it is driven by an electric motor powered by an onboard battery system. The only distinction between a hybrid and an eBus is that the hybrid has an onboard generator that produces electricity when needed. The benefits of the hybrid-electric fleet are estimated as follows:

• Reduces greenhouse emissions by 12,000 tonnes annually. To remove this amount of carbon dioxide naturally, a new forest would need to be created in the City of Toronto that is over 14,000 acres in size, or over 4,500 city blocks. Over the 13-year life of these buses, that’s the equivalent of 156,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide.
• Reduces diesel cost by $6,864,300 annually. Over the 13-year life of these buses, that’s a savings estimated, conservatively, at over one hundred million dollars.
• Eliminates idling in traffic and at bus stops using engine stop/start technology.
• Enables upskilling for operators and maintenance employees through an all-electric propulsion system and all-electric accessories, including doors, HVAC, power steering, and air compressor systems.

In Feb. 2022, the TTC awarded contracts for 336 hybrid-electric buses to be delivered in 2023 and 2024 as follows:

1) Nova Bus: 134 forty-foot hybrid-electric buses
2) New Flyer Industries: 134 forty-foot hybrid-electric buses
3) New Flyer Industries: 68 sixty-foot hybrid-electric buses

With this procurement, one third of the TTC’s bus fleet will be made up of low or zero-emissions buses by mid-2024. This is the final hybrid-electric bus procurement before the TTC transitions to eBus-only vehicle purchases moving forward.
 
Not sure how seriously we should take the claim they'll start entering service in May. The first Nova hybrids were supposed to enter service at the end of November 2018, but they didn't enter service until February 2019.
 
Not sure how seriously we should take the claim they'll start entering service in May. The first Nova hybrids were supposed to enter service at the end of November 2018, but they didn't enter service until February 2019.
Which ones are we getting first?
 
TTC, PowerON unveil innovative eBus charging system

April 21, 2023

Today, the TTC and PowerON Energy Solutions were joined by Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie, as they unveiled 10 newly commissioned, battery-electric bus (eBus) charging pantographs as part of a proof of concept at Birchmount Garage, expanding the TTC's charging capacity.

The new pantographs will support overhead charging, delivering electricity from a centralized power source to chargers mounted above battery-electric buses. This innovative transit charging system is the first phase of a 20-year agreement between the TTC and Ontario Power Generation subsidiary, PowerON Energy Solutions.

"The City of Toronto is proud to support this innovative eBus charging system here in Scarborough as part of the work underway to make sure our TTC fleet is cleaner and greener," said Deputy Mayor Jennifer McKelvie. "This new system is good news for our transit system and our environment just ahead of Earth Day. Expanding the TTC's charging capacity is crucial to our plans to have a completely green fleet in the future and we won't get there without the continued co-operation and commitment of all our government partners."

"Ontario's clean electricity grid is ready to support the electrification of public transit, the transportation sector and beyond," said Todd Smith, Ontario's Minister of Energy. "I'm pleased that Ontario Power Generation subsidiary, PowerON, has led the installation of this state-of-the-art charging technology that will help the City of Toronto reduce emissions and deliver a greener, healthier public transportation system, getting people to work, school and home."

"We're grateful for the continued support of our partners at the City of Toronto and PowerON," said TTC Chair Jon Burnside. "The TTC operates one of the largest fleets of battery-electric buses in North America, and we look forward to continuing to expand and improve our eBus program, as we work towards a completely green fleet by 2040."

Under the agreement, PowerON designs, builds, co-invests in, owns, and operates charging infrastructure to electrify the TTC's bus fleet and facilities.

"PowerON provides innovative charging solutions so municipalities and others can green their fleets," said PowerON Managing Director Keegan Tully. "The Birchmount Garage system sets the stage for broader transit electrification in Toronto and beyond."

"We're very excited about this new charging infrastructure, as the overhead chargers are more compact, and will allow us to charge more eBuses faster, in more locations," said TTC CEO Rick Leary. "With additional hybrid-electric buses joining our existing fleet over the next few months, and the eBuses that will follow, we are bringing more environmentally friendly and quieter vehicles to even more routes across the city."

This Birchmount proof of concept is funded by the City of Toronto, who have contributed over five million dollars to the project. The TTC will use the system to gather and evaluate reliability and operations data prior to broader deployment.

The TTC will transition its bus fleet to 100 per cent zero emissions by 2040 or sooner.

About PowerON Energy Solutions
PowerON, a subsidiary of Ontario Power Generation, is an electrification leader with resources and expertise to provide charging infrastructure and energy management for all types of fleets.

PowerON minimizes the risks associated with the electrification of fleets, like the TTC's buses, by taking on the construction and operation of charging infrastructure, greatly simplifying the process while allowing organizations like the TTC to focus on core operations. PowerON promises to reduce cost and time to electrify while increasing charging reliability for fleets.
 
Also 2 of the 2023 New Flyer XDE40S have been delivered to Mount Dennis Division today April 21st
 

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