[picard102]

It would almost be better to shut this section down for a few weeks to do 24 hour work rather than have months of slow zones. The main problem is this might not be possible as it would cut the rest of the line off from the Wilson yards.

Store trains in the tunnels?

 

[T3G]

Store trains in the tunnels?

If a train breaks down you'd be SOL though. To say nothing of this breaking up the scheduled maintenance regimen.

 

[beatle04]

It would almost be better to shut this section down for a few weeks to do 24 hour work rather than have months of slow zones. The main problem is this might not be possible as it would cut the rest of the line off from the Wilson yards.

I'm sure they could make due with Davisville and storage tracks on the Yonge side.

They could also probably do single track operation if they REALLY wanted to. One time I was going southbound at St Clair and there was a medical emergency at Rosedale. Our train ended up moving over to the northbound tracks and went down to Bloor "the wrong way".

 

[T3G]

I'm sure they could make due with Davisville and storage tracks on the Yonge side.

They could also probably do single track operation if they REALLY wanted to. One time I was going southbound at St Clair and there was a medical emergency at Rosedale. Our train ended up moving over to the northbound tracks and went down to Bloor "the wrong way".

Have you seen how big Wilson yard is? Why would the extremely small Davisville and the small handful of storage tracks on the Yonge side suffice as a replacement?

And how do you do maintenance if a train breaks down? If you can't get to Wilson, where do you park it?

 

[picard102]

Have you seen how big Wilson yard is? Why would the extremely small Davisville and the small handful of storage tracks on the Yonge side suffice as a replacement?

And how do you do maintenance if a train breaks down? If you can't get to Wilson, where do you park it?

Tail tracks I would imagine, or Davisville. How many trains break down in a day do we need to store somewhere?

There is also nothing stopping them from returning to wilson if they work on one side of the track at a time.

 

[smallspy]

There is also nothing stopping them from returning to wilson if they work on one side of the track at a time.

Except for the fact that if they are working on the cut-and-cover tunnels that the power needs to be shut off on both tracks.

Dan

 

[mr_content]

Davisville Yard doesn't realistically have the capacity to serve Line 1 if everywhere north of St. George is closed for work and Wilson Yard is cut off. Maybe such a closure could be feasible once the storage facility on the Yonge North extension comes online—I'm sure at this rate we'll still have plenty of slow orders then!

 

[Bordercollie]

You could literally build a hand trolley with lasers on it to measure the track if you wanted to. You could even mount it under a flat car.

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The issue is how bad is the maintenance when you have a slow order on a straight section of track where the track is bolted directly to sleepers which are bolted into concrete? It's not like the ballast moved causing the track to become out of alignment. On curved sections, you can have excessive wear and such, which makes sense.

That North York Center section even has new track laid.

 

[6ixGod]

It would almost be better to shut this section down for a few weeks to do 24 hour work rather than have months of slow zones. The main problem is this might not be possible as it would cut the rest of the line off from the Wilson yards.

UPDATE: They now have automatic messages playing whenever the trains approach a slow zone. Basically states this is a slow zone and we apologise.

It’s been almost two months and the slow zones haven’t gotten any smaller. I’m beginning to think are they actually fixing the tracks or is this just normally scheduled maintenance work.

 

[T3G]

Tail tracks I would imagine, or Davisville. How many trains break down in a day do we need to store somewhere?

There is also nothing stopping them from returning to wilson if they work on one side of the track at a time.

Davisville has a maximum capacity of 12 trains for storage. Not sure how many cars they can realistically service at one time. I'm not convinced that this would be a sufficient amount of trains for rush hour service from Finch to St. George. And tail tracks... wouldn't you need those to store serviceable trains overnight? Where are you going to park those if they are cluttered with dead trains?

 

[Richard White]

UPDATE: They now have automatic messages playing whenever the trains approach a slow zone. Basically states this is a slow zone and we apologise.

Danny Nicholson has been voicing these since prior to his retirement in 2016.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

UPDATE: They now have automatic messages playing whenever the trains approach a slow zone. Basically states this is a slow zone and we apologise.

It’s been almost two months and the slow zones haven’t gotten any smaller. I’m beginning to think are they actually fixing the tracks or is this just normally scheduled maintenance work.

Great, I hope they aren't aiming for a GO train level of verbosity.

AoD

 

[turbanplanner]

Great, I hope they aren't aiming for a GO train level of verbosity.

AoD

I wish the robot voices didn't sound so robotic, and also cost north of a million dollars to program each time!

 

[Amare]

UPDATE: They now have automatic messages playing whenever the trains approach a slow zone. Basically states this is a slow zone and we apologise.

It’s been almost two months and the slow zones haven’t gotten any smaller. I’m beginning to think are they actually fixing the tracks or is this just normally scheduled maintenance work.

They're inconsistent, just like everything with the TTC. Sometimes they're on, sometimes they're not.

Those messages date back to when Byford was CEO and were more consistent, you can guess what happened with them once Leary took over.

 

[Johnny Au]

Even AI-generated voices would be a major improvement!