[Mr.Tang]

The speed reduction zones (and their impact/frustration levels) have to go in concert with the other pretty constant level of "mechanical issues", "service adjustments", "emergency on train" - which means that I find it is very rare I get on my daily train ride and do not have a series of delays getting to my destination. I would add in that a number of stations have ongoing constructions projects, which is great in the sense that it is investment, but as they are all happening concurrently and without a sense as to the progress makes it seem like the place is falling apart. I get on at Lawrence - the south entrance is under construction for accessibility improvements and is closed for over a year - therefore everyone is funneled to the north entrance - but out of 4 turnstiles: 1 is no tap, and it is very rare for all 3 of the others to be working (so queues form to get in/out). At Queen where I get off, there is some kind of construction at my exit into the Bay that funnels everyone (and it is a pretty busy stop) into one stair well. TTC people with vests on mill about aimlessly throughout.

sorry for the rant.

 

[Amare]

On today's update, we can see the past 2 weeks of various early subway closures between Eglinton and College have had absolutely 0 effect/improvement on the slow order situation.

On a positive update for all those (including myself) who thought Line 4 was finally in the clear, you're wrong. We can see the TTC has gone ahead and added in another one between Leslie and Don Mills.

It seems like we're in month 4 of speed restricted areas along Bloor-Yonge to Rosedale stations, and from Dupont to Sheppard West stations. This organization has no shame in itself whatsoever.

Sep 9, 2024

 

[generalcanada]

On today's update, we can see the past 2 weeks of various early subway closures between Eglinton and College have had absolutely 0 effect/improvement on the slow order situation.

On a positive update for all those (including myself) who thought Line 4 was finally in the clear, you're wrong. We can see the TTC has gone ahead and added in another one between Leslie and Don Mills.

It seems like we're in month 4 of speed restricted areas along Bloor-Yonge to Rosedale stations, and from Dupont to Sheppard West stations. This organization has no shame in itself whatsoever.

Sep 9, 2024

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Its not even the older areas like union to eglinton only. How is the sheppard line so bad too? its just over 20 years old. HOW

 

[lead82]

Lack of maintenance and neglect. That is the TTC in a nutshell.

 

[smallspy]

Its not even the older areas like union to eglinton only. How is the sheppard line so bad too? its just over 20 years old. HOW

Rails are a consumable. They have a lifespan, and that lifespan is dictated by a variety of factors such as axle weight, number of axles, equipment performance, curvature, gradient, acceleration/deceleration, ambient conditions, etc.

Depending on where it is located, the lifespan of a length of rail in the subway can be as low as 10 years. And on the mainline, it never gets to 30.

Dan

 

[Amare]

I dont know how many weekend/early night closures it takes to resolve issues on this forsaken subway system, but apparently not enough. As we can see, this past weekend's closure from St.Clair West and Sheppard West stations did nothing to clear up a single speed restricted zone:


Sep 16, 2024

 

[lenaitch]

I dont know how many weekend/early night closures it takes to resolve issues on this forsaken subway system, but apparently not enough. As we can see, this past weekend's closure from St.Clair West and Sheppard West stations did nothing to clear up a single speed restricted zone:


Sep 16, 2024

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I may be wrong as it has been many years but isn't the stretch between Eglinton West and Dupont a long uninterrupted grade? Wasn't there an instance where a train overran signals and/or ran into another train a number of years ago? That slow order zone might be a permanent 'abundance of caution' speed restriction zone.

 

[mrgrieves]

I dont know how many weekend/early night closures it takes to resolve issues on this forsaken subway system, but apparently not enough. As we can see, this past weekend's closure from St.Clair West and Sheppard West stations did nothing to clear up a single speed restricted zone:


Sep 16, 2024

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for what it's worth, when driving up the Allen between Lawrence and Wilson this weekend i noticed a total of two crews working on the line

 

[Northern Light]

Wasn't there an instance where a train overran signals and/or ran into another train a number of years ago?

Yes, that's the Russel Hill collision. The train ran through a red signal. There is an arm on the old wayside signals (its now ATC) that was supposed to trip the train's emergency break if it ran a red, the arm was too low.

That slow order zone might be a permanent 'abundance of caution' speed restriction zone.

No. This is not that.

 

[turbanplanner]

Rails are a consumable. They have a lifespan, and that lifespan is dictated by a variety of factors such as axle weight, number of axles, equipment performance, curvature, gradient, acceleration/deceleration, ambient conditions, etc.

Depending on where it is located, the lifespan of a length of rail in the subway can be as low as 10 years. And on the mainline, it never gets to 30.

Dan

I took a bunch of photos of line 3 a few years ago, I noticed the tracks at least where I was were from 1982!

 

[lenaitch]

Yes, that's the Russel Hill collision. The train ran through a red signal. There is an arm on the old wayside signals (its now ATC) that was supposed to trip the train's emergency break if it ran a red, the arm was too low.



No. This is not that.

Thanks for that.

Maybe the state-of-good-repair can't keep up with the curvature wear both directions from Union. I remember as a regular user trains squeal like hell on those curves. Similar to the underground Bay streetcar loop that had to be constantly water-lubricated.

 

[Amare]

Thanks for that.

Maybe the state-of-good-repair can't keep up with the curvature wear both directions from Union. I remember as a regular user trains squeal like hell on those curves. Similar to the underground Bay streetcar loop that had to be constantly water-lubricated.

The sharp curved rails around Union and Museum usually require more frequent maintenance/replacement compared your standard straight rails. So that's something to not be too concerned about.

It's the other sections of track that are going through this severely prolonged stretch "maintenance" that's a concern and abnormal.

 

[Bojaxs]

The sharp curved rails around Union and Museum usually require more frequent maintenance/replacement compared your standard straight rails. So that's something to not be too concerned about.

It's the other sections of track that are going through this severely prolonged stretch "maintenance" that's a concern and abnormal.

And here we are in 2024 ,constructing the Ontario line to have sharp, curved corners from East Harbour to Moss Park.

-Hamilton LRT (Dundrun st.)
-GO Bowmanville Extension

Metrolinx loves to make sure our trains are as slow as possible while increasing maintenance costs.

 

[smallspy]

I took a bunch of photos of line 3 a few years ago, I noticed the tracks at least where I was were from 1982!

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A photo of a rail with absolutely no context as to its location is not much help at all.

Especially considering that there were some locations on the "mainline" where the rail very seldom got use, and therefore would have taken far longer than normal to become life expired.

Dan

 

[adys123]

And here we are in 2024 ,constructing the Ontario line to have sharp, curved corners from East Harbour to Moss Park.

-Hamilton LRT (Dundrun st.)
-GO Bowmanville Extension

Metrolinx loves to make sure our trains are as slow as possible while increasing maintenance costs.

The curves have been optimized, and no where on that line will curves be as sharp as on Line 1. Minimal impacts to speed are expected, as they will spend most of their time accelerating and decelerating between the stations. Lower speeds will minimize impacts to maintenance, the challenges on the existing infrastructure point more to neglect.