David A
Senior Member
Yeah, I don't think our one lone UCP MLA was such a stellar effective advocate for our city. The result just makes clearer what was already evident.
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Edmonchuk
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Consult who?! An idiot Madu, who was never qualified to be a minister, a recent immigrant who never had any full time work experience in this country, let alone judiciary. And some questionable education from Nigeria.Mayor Sohi agrees with @Glenco
City council, not losing UCP candidates, should inform on Edmonton issues: mayor - Edmonton | Globalnews.ca
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith said she would consult local unsuccessful UCP candidates on how to handle problems facing Edmonton.globalnews.ca
It will sure get worse before it gets better.
MacLac
Senior Member
He must have been one of those millionaire Nigerian Princes who had money locked away and if he found some poor maidens to give him some of their money - then he would bestow millions upon those who helped him "unlock his riches?"
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ChazYEG
Senior Member
As much as I agree that Madu is an idiot, calling him these things, questioning his education (when he graduated from the top university in his home country) and implying he is less than something due to that is pretty xenophobic, and VERY arrogant, at the very least. He was in Canada for 14 years prior to his election as an MLA in 2019, which hardly makes him "a recent immigrant".
As someone who's a recent-ish immigrant, these kinds of comments are VERY offensive and makes me genuinely question the character of whoever says these things. If these are not retracted, I'll be reporting it to moderation.
As someone who's a recent-ish immigrant, these kinds of comments are VERY offensive and makes me genuinely question the character of whoever says these things. If these are not retracted, I'll be reporting it to moderation.
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Edmonchuk
Active Member
I am an immigrant myself, and don’t feel good about having a person like Madu serve as a minister of judiciary.
Since when it’s xenophobic to question someone’s education and work experience?
Since when it’s xenophobic to question someone’s education and work experience?
Edmonchuk
Active Member
Maybe you should also stop putting words into my mouth I never said or meant. Or I will call it homophobic and report it.
MacLac
Senior Member
Quote: Iveson, Don: "He was a bilious creature to deal with," Iveson told CBC News Tuesday.
Bilious / affected by or associated with nausea or vomitting.
So it's not like we're making this stuff up.....
ChazYEG
Senior Member
"Questionable Nigerian education" were your exact words. Top university in the country, one of the best in the continent, it is anything but questionable. If you can't see how this comes across as xenophobic, you have an issue.
I don't feel good about Madu representing anyone, anywhere, because he's an idiot and corrupt (call to the Chief of Police is the prime example), but using his background as an immigrant and questioning his education using the argument you did is absolutely unacceptable.
You can't come and spill these kinds of comments attacking someone based of his nationality and expect to be met with cheers.
And I dare you find something homophobic I said, to report it.
I don't feel good about Madu representing anyone, anywhere, because he's an idiot and corrupt (call to the Chief of Police is the prime example), but using his background as an immigrant and questioning his education using the argument you did is absolutely unacceptable.
You can't come and spill these kinds of comments attacking someone based of his nationality and expect to be met with cheers.
And I dare you find something homophobic I said, to report it.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
I am no lover of Kaycee Madu, and I agree that he is the worst kind of politician, and probably not a very good person either, but attacking him using his nationality is not acceptable.
Edmonchuk
Active Member
listen man, just drop this. I never said anything about his nationality. And Nigerian education is CORRUPT! And so he is.
Glenco
Senior Member
TravellingChris
Active Member
Good points here. As to your last point, the NDP campaign reminded me a bit of the failed Clinton/Kaine campaign in 2016. Hillary spent way too much time pointing out how flawed her opponent was and how unsuitable to be president--to the extent that voters were telling pollsters they didn't think Hillary even had an economic plan because she spent all her time talking about her opponent's character. This seems to be the same mistake the NDP made, not focusing enough on bread-and-butter issues instead of on the flaws in the UCP and Danielle Smith's leadership.
It's also interesting that only very slight changes in vote totals in a few places (several Calgary ridings for the NDP, Michigan and Wisconsin for Hillary), would have resulted in a completely different outcome for the entire election.
TravellingChris
Active Member
Doesn't anyone remember 1993? The same concerns were raised when Ralph Klein won the election but every Edmonton seat (and most surrounding seats) went Liberal. Local residents and politicians expressed the same fears that Edmonton would be "shut out" of decision-making. If I recall correctly Klein decided that he would "buddy up" certain of his MLAs from other areas with Edmonton ridings to give them a voice. Interestingly, The PCs won back some Edmonton and area seats in 1997 and won an even greater number in 2001.^ And I guess this is how Smith is going to do it and that way she can include some more ucp viewpoints into the mix (not to mention the payroll) because clearly that's what Edmontonians want and need.
But maybe she deserves some credit here for at least including Edmonton and we'll see how this goes?
Smith to create 'council of defeated' to advise on Edmonton issues
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith said she will form a "council of defeated" with some losing United Conservative Party (UCP) candidates from Edmonton towww.westernstandard.news
The_Cat
Senior Member
^ I think this time is a little different. Calgary (and Edmonton) have more diverse populations, leaning more towards NDP.