fiendishlibrarian
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Comedy_Landfill
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Not really. How is something spam if it's on topic?
syn
Senior Member
From what I've read the union doesn't appear to be too flexible.
Acting Minor Traitor
New Member
At least entertaining graffiti's starting to come out of it. Sometime during the weekend, I think - definitely between Friday afternoon and Monday afternoon - this Watchmen-inspired message ("Who Watches the Garbage Men?") appeared on the south side of 1116 King West. All we need now is vigilante garbage collectors and WE ARE SET.
(Torontoist reported on it today but I WAS FIRST)
(Torontoist reported on it today but I WAS FIRST)
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Dilla
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Coming onto the forum and making your first post a link to (assuming by your moniker) your site is generally frowned upon in these parts, even if it is somewhat on topic.
Dilla
Senior Member
There's a mattress on the side walk at the south east corner of Spadina and College which someone spray painted "Sorry for the mess" on last night. The writing looks similar to what is on the image you provided.
Jonny5
Senior Member
Umm, nice made up quote. Humourously Kim Campbellesque, but he doesn't say that.
Dilla
Senior Member
Miller also says he believes “public services being delivered publicly.†All well and good, but they're not being delivered at the moment, so there's a problem.
Comedy_Landfill
New Member
That's interesting. I'm quoting the name of the article, which has since changed. It was originally "A strike is no time to talk about issues."
I suppose he changed the title for exactly that reason.
299 bloor call control.
Senior Member
Some peculiar quotes from CUPE 416 boss today:
First bolded - finished? Finished what? Finished striking? Finished with your jobs and you quit collectively?
Second bolded - threats and then leaving the bargaining table is hardly "serious"
Third/Fourth bolded - Isn't it called collective bargaining? Of course the city is bargaining.
First bolded - finished? Finished what? Finished striking? Finished with your jobs and you quit collectively?
Second bolded - threats and then leaving the bargaining table is hardly "serious"
Third/Fourth bolded - Isn't it called collective bargaining? Of course the city is bargaining.
kEiThZ
Superstar
They are just surprised that the City's not caving immediately as is standard practice.
"You mean they are actually serious about making us work harder? Now, it's really on!"
MetroMan
Senior Member
"We are Finished"? Was that a Freudian Slip?
The workers who haven't been receiving their pay cheques will eventually crumble. They don't have to contend with patience: they have to contend with paying the bills.
With workers returning to their jobs in growing numbers over the last several days, you could say that either CUPE is "finished" or Mark Ferguson and co. at the least will be replaced.
The workers who haven't been receiving their pay cheques will eventually crumble. They don't have to contend with patience: they have to contend with paying the bills.
With workers returning to their jobs in growing numbers over the last several days, you could say that either CUPE is "finished" or Mark Ferguson and co. at the least will be replaced.
Canuck
Active Member
I get the very very strong feeling (as others have already mentioned) that the union wants arbitration. I doubt they'll even entertain any offer with clauses they don't want (e.g., elimination of the sick bank, raises of less than they're expecting).
I can honestly see this strike going for some time still.
Since the province has given no indication that they're going to legislate them back to work and send it to arbitration, the only way this is going to end is with pressure from residents or union members.
I think we're still weeks away from a majority of residents putting pressure on the politicians to end (i.e. cave on) the strike, and weeks away from enough union members returning to work and/or putting pressure on their union to reach a settlement.
The union's strategy was obvious - hope for a hot stinky summer and raise the issue in the media of the inequality of other unions and city politicians getting a higher raise than them. The union was looking to have the city quickly cave, or the province legislate them back to work. I doubt they ever wanted to negotiate or were willing to discuss serious concessions.
With a combination of a cooler summer than normal, and a province not wanting to appear to favour Toronto, especially after not intervening in the Windsor strike that started weeks earlier, their gamble did not return immediate results.
Prediction - this ends in September. I have no idea who will blink first, but for now the battle lines are heavily entrenched.
That said I live in an apartment and have regular garbage/recycling pickup. I'm also not directly affected by the other unions on strike. As such the most the strike affects me is noticing the overflowing garbage bins while walking in the Annex. I want to see the city stand firm - and I want to see a fair deal for both the workers and the city/residents.
I can honestly see this strike going for some time still.
Since the province has given no indication that they're going to legislate them back to work and send it to arbitration, the only way this is going to end is with pressure from residents or union members.
I think we're still weeks away from a majority of residents putting pressure on the politicians to end (i.e. cave on) the strike, and weeks away from enough union members returning to work and/or putting pressure on their union to reach a settlement.
The union's strategy was obvious - hope for a hot stinky summer and raise the issue in the media of the inequality of other unions and city politicians getting a higher raise than them. The union was looking to have the city quickly cave, or the province legislate them back to work. I doubt they ever wanted to negotiate or were willing to discuss serious concessions.
With a combination of a cooler summer than normal, and a province not wanting to appear to favour Toronto, especially after not intervening in the Windsor strike that started weeks earlier, their gamble did not return immediate results.
Prediction - this ends in September. I have no idea who will blink first, but for now the battle lines are heavily entrenched.
That said I live in an apartment and have regular garbage/recycling pickup. I'm also not directly affected by the other unions on strike. As such the most the strike affects me is noticing the overflowing garbage bins while walking in the Annex. I want to see the city stand firm - and I want to see a fair deal for both the workers and the city/residents.
dt_toronto_geek
Superstar
I'm noticing more and more of the City garbage bins around downtown being re-sealed, presumably by BIA's, neighbourhood associations etc. Garbage bags are being hung on the sides of many of the bins so that they can be easily changed. In the Church-Wellesley Village someone (the BIA?) has cut pink bristol board, placed it over the openings, wrote "FULL" and then taped them securely with clear packing tape, and provided garbage bags on the sides. Surprisingly I still see overflowing bins with garbage in front of them along Bloor St. between Yonge & Ave. Rd., someone should get with the program there!
Sealing the garbage bins similar to what I noted above also helps reduce the smell from the rotting garbage inside dramatically.
Sealing the garbage bins similar to what I noted above also helps reduce the smell from the rotting garbage inside dramatically.
maestro
Senior Member
I would prefer the city or better,its residents, to take a more proactive approach than just standing firm or taking it up the ass . I'm all for fair deals but the union is beyond reason and has been for a very long time.
I do have a couple friends in this union and they do work very hard but, enough is enough.