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Jonny5
Senior Member
LOL at "operational challenges."
Northern Light
Superstar
Ok....so, no pics.............
But I went on a tour of the new Nature's Emporium today.
I have thoughts.
Better than Coppa's (not that hard).......
1) Where they are positioned as upper-middle/high-end market retailer, at least they mostly look the part, where Coppa's did not.
2) They are actually price competitive on some (comparable) or (identical) items.
3) Lots of samples on offer.
4) Generally good labelling (Coppa's was terrible at this)
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Overall ambiance B/B+ Its not quite where I would want it for the price point, but its quite good.
Price point (value) B- Not a terrible rating, its high priced, but if you compare product to product, they are competitive on many items; however, there a a few they are completely out to lunch on.
Best value produce: Organic Lemons - .66c ea ; (compares favourably to conventional lemons at Longos at a buck each)
Worst value produce: Organic Curly Parsley - $5.99 a bunch. Simply, you must be kidding, you all know exactly what gesture that merits.
Product Quality: Bakery seems to be heavily outsourced, if you like Blackbird in Kensington, you'll probably be happy. Produce quality is good overall. Meat.....we have a problem here. The beef is mostly ultra-lean.
Gotta say, I'm fine w/people who don't like beef; and I'm fine w/people on a diet; I'm not ok w/people who like beef that tastes bad. Fat is flavour!
Prepared foods: A bit too health-trend forward for my taste. For some reason, I don't crave mousse made w/Chia...........
Strong Points: They have an extensive private-label program which is quite competitive in many categories. Good customer-service training, good merchandising (displays).
Weak Points: Terrible visibility from the outside; has nobody learned this yet, really? IF they don't know you exist, they don't find you. Second, they are completely out to lunch on some price points...... Third, over-emphasis to me on supplements. I don't view the GNC crowd as the foodie crowd or the eco crowd by and large. Very odd hybrid.
Customer traffic, for mid-day, early on...............ok'ish.......not where it should be though.
But I went on a tour of the new Nature's Emporium today.
I have thoughts.
Better than Coppa's (not that hard).......
1) Where they are positioned as upper-middle/high-end market retailer, at least they mostly look the part, where Coppa's did not.
2) They are actually price competitive on some (comparable) or (identical) items.
3) Lots of samples on offer.
4) Generally good labelling (Coppa's was terrible at this)
****
Overall ambiance B/B+ Its not quite where I would want it for the price point, but its quite good.
Price point (value) B- Not a terrible rating, its high priced, but if you compare product to product, they are competitive on many items; however, there a a few they are completely out to lunch on.
Best value produce: Organic Lemons - .66c ea ; (compares favourably to conventional lemons at Longos at a buck each)
Worst value produce: Organic Curly Parsley - $5.99 a bunch. Simply, you must be kidding, you all know exactly what gesture that merits.
Product Quality: Bakery seems to be heavily outsourced, if you like Blackbird in Kensington, you'll probably be happy. Produce quality is good overall. Meat.....we have a problem here. The beef is mostly ultra-lean.
Gotta say, I'm fine w/people who don't like beef; and I'm fine w/people on a diet; I'm not ok w/people who like beef that tastes bad. Fat is flavour!
Prepared foods: A bit too health-trend forward for my taste. For some reason, I don't crave mousse made w/Chia...........
Strong Points: They have an extensive private-label program which is quite competitive in many categories. Good customer-service training, good merchandising (displays).
Weak Points: Terrible visibility from the outside; has nobody learned this yet, really? IF they don't know you exist, they don't find you. Second, they are completely out to lunch on some price points...... Third, over-emphasis to me on supplements. I don't view the GNC crowd as the foodie crowd or the eco crowd by and large. Very odd hybrid.
Customer traffic, for mid-day, early on...............ok'ish.......not where it should be though.
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elcorrerador
Active Member
https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2023/08/bj-supermarket-toronto-closing/
Not really downtown but thought this was the best thread for it. Indian grocery store in Leslieville is/has closed.
Not really downtown but thought this was the best thread for it. Indian grocery store in Leslieville is/has closed.
Northern Light
Superstar
That's a potential disaster.
Maisie was an institution and a tour de force.
Always accessible and always looking out for new and interesting product.
The same could not be said of the Beach Store; and the College one closed, which tells you how well it did.
Pfft.
onthestreet
New Member
T&T is coming to Panda Condo Development on the site of the former World's Biggest Bookstore.
retail-insider.com
T&T Supermarket to Open Store Near Yonge & Dundas in Downtown Toronto [Renderings/Interview]
The new store at the base of the former World's Biggest Bookstore will serve local residents and university students, offering a range of ready-to-eat meals and traditional Asian groceries.
retail-insider.com
Northern Light
Superstar
T&T is coming to Panda Condo Development on the site of the former World's Biggest Bookstore.
T&T Supermarket to Open Store Near Yonge & Dundas in Downtown Toronto [Renderings/Interview]
The new store at the base of the former World's Biggest Bookstore will serve local residents and university students, offering a range of ready-to-eat meals and traditional Asian groceries.
I told you all that more supermarkets were coming to DT.
A couple have been nixed, but this one was not.
The sales out of the College location have been gangbusters; they knew they were leaving money on the table.
This one is fortunately bigger than the College site, they're taking 31,000ft2.
This is only the second store in the chain to get the 'street food concept' for hot meals.
Chinese-style crepes, Taiwanese-style stuffed rice rolls and popcorn chicken among other things.
This spot was also chosen because the Gardens Loblaws, and College Park Metro both do huge numbers; so there was clear evidence there was some space in the market for more; TMU students are the number one target group here.
Richard White
Senior Member
T&T is coming to Panda Condo Development on the site of the former World's Biggest Bookstore.
T&T Supermarket to Open Store Near Yonge & Dundas in Downtown Toronto [Renderings/Interview]
The new store at the base of the former World's Biggest Bookstore will serve local residents and university students, offering a range of ready-to-eat meals and traditional Asian groceries.
I wonder how well this will do in the heart of Downtown. Is the clientele big enough in the area to support it?
Northern Light
Superstar
Read my post right above yours, your questions are already answered.
Richard White
Senior Member
I saw that after I hit send. Apologies NL!
evandyk
Senior Member
Downtown is still quite underserved for groceries. Every store is crowded pretty much throughout their opening hours.
westtoeast
Active Member
Any more word / progress on the second floor space at Peter and Adelaide? I remember seeing a permit earlier, but now I can't find it
Richard White
Senior Member
I am wondering if this is one of those things that was nixed.
rdaner
Senior Member
Now we just need an Adonis and a Simon's and I will never have to leave the central city again!
evandyk
Senior Member
I don't know anything about Simons, but if Adonis showed up downtown with one of their pita machines, I'd be there every day.
I wonder how much the rent for enough space for those pita machines would be in a downtown space. You'd probably have to sell an awful lot of pitas!
For those who don't know....
www.thestar.com
I wonder how much the rent for enough space for those pita machines would be in a downtown space. You'd probably have to sell an awful lot of pitas!
For those who don't know....
Marché Adonis’s beloved pita machine is back up and running — and customers can’t get enough of it
Part tourist attraction, part bread oven, this elaborate, custom-built machine churns out over 6,000 pitas on a busy day.
www.thestar.com