Bordercollie
Senior Member
Any other modifications? I assume it will be a full width cab?
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RU479
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The cab cars have had full width cabs since 2002-2004.
Although I heard that they will have upgrades done to make the operability better for the crews.
RU479
Active Member
I'd say considering 2(?) seem almost completely finished now, they could arrive as early as fall of this year.
APTA-2048
Senior Member
If the Series VI are any indication, these may have new seats (the ones on the CEM cars).
gotransitboyhere
Active Member
Will these cabs have K5LA's?
RU479
Active Member
Transport Canada would not allow that unless GO puts a K5CA horn along with the K5LA, and GO would never waste money on buying two horns for a single unit.
gotransitboyhere
Active Member
I might email GO Transit about that, since I have emailed them before.
gotransitboyhere
Active Member
Where can I find more photos of these cabs?
smallspy
Senior Member
TC will absolutely allow it. And they have, too.
But on passenger equipment it would need to be paired with another horn.
Dan
cplchanb
Senior Member
What are the differences between the horns? On YouTube theg both sound virtually the same
RU479
Active Member
Here’s the old K5LAs used before the mandate in 2012:
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ssiguy2
Senior Member
While the 2nd horn is much more bearable, it does show how over/underpasses are needed on the system.
While some may think it's a bit of a waste of money, I certainly don't. Besides being both faster and safer, they also result in a quiet neighbourhood.. It's one thing to have to tolerate a train horn every hour and quite another having to tolerate it every 8 minutes at a MINIMUM all day long late into the evening even on Sundays. This is when local communities start to view GO service in a negative light as the noise levels become intolerable. I think the entire RER sections of GO should be 100% grade separated.
While some may think it's a bit of a waste of money, I certainly don't. Besides being both faster and safer, they also result in a quiet neighbourhood.. It's one thing to have to tolerate a train horn every hour and quite another having to tolerate it every 8 minutes at a MINIMUM all day long late into the evening even on Sundays. This is when local communities start to view GO service in a negative light as the noise levels become intolerable. I think the entire RER sections of GO should be 100% grade separated.
RU479
Active Member
Well, really only the Barrie Line has a lot of horn enabled crossings, all the other ones have mostly quiet zones initiated or have grade separations as mentioned.
cplchanb
Senior Member
Honestly we should be investing in the low hanging fruit of having the crossings at least upgraded to allow for quiet zones... the horn and the bell is such a draconian and obsolete protocol. Hardly any other railroad in the world uses this apart from NA.
RU479
Active Member
But then by the time the frequent 3-8 min service arrives there would be more backing of traffic. Even if quiet zones are effective, traffic would get backed up way more with the frequent service blocking crossings.
I think we should mostly focus on getting rid of most of the grade crossings within the RER zone, like ssiguy2 mentioned.
