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crs1026
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The GO MP40’s weigh in at around 288,000 lbs - versus a GO F59PH at 260,000 lbs or a VIA P42 at 268,500 lbs. Just a bit too heavy for a poorly maintained old bridge.
Interestingly, it was CN who insisted that the F59’s be limited to that weight back when the locos were designed….GO downsized things like the fuel tank to keep the weight within what CN would accept. Just this once, the restriction paid off.
- Paul
dowlingm
Senior Member
F59PH and F40PH are 260,000lbs, MP40 is 285,000. Trestle has a 65 or 70 ton axle weight limit?
lenaitch
Senior Member
I assumed he meant passenger service on the existing Goderich Exeter RR, not one abandoned 35 years ago.
dowlingm
Senior Member
also whoever at GO decided not to sell all the F59s
Garuda
Active Member
I’m riding the route this fall from guelph to Goderich! Staying overnight and back again. GO Transit special route 37X with Specialized Rockhopper. Only one seat and no bathrooms.
jamincan
Active Member
I’m riding the route this fall from guelph to Goderich! Staying overnight and back again. GO Transit special route 37X with Specialized Rockhopper. Only one seat and no bathrooms.
You have a second on the handlebars in a pinch.
That's what I was talking about. Ride my bike to Goderich on the rail trail through Blyth, and then take the train back to Guelph on the not-abandoned route through Stratford.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Not sure if the weight restriction makes sense. Saw this comment in the video. CN runs some pretty big freights through there:
Towered
Superstar
Wanted to take a train to Niagara Falls on Thursday from Union:
GO Transit: "That service is only offered on weekends during summer"
VIA Rail: "Errr, sorry, we don't have such a service. Please use GO Transit"
Pathetic.
GO Transit: "That service is only offered on weekends during summer"
VIA Rail: "Errr, sorry, we don't have such a service. Please use GO Transit"
Pathetic.
vic
Senior Member
Yeah. I went there a few weeks ago on a Thursday. Had to transfer to bus in Burlington, then got a bit of a milk-run tour of the Niagara area.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Even if you search on a weekend, when GO is currently running more train service than VIA did, the VIA website just says "sorry", because the Niagara GO trains aren't in VIA's trip planner.
For the same reason, it also gives you stupid trip options on other routes:
If you're planning a trip from Aldershot to Union, why would you take the local train at 16:25 when there's an express train at 16:30 which gets to Union earlier?
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SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
More GO tests to London today. What is interesting is that these test trains seem to be an extension of the revenue GO train that arrives in Kitchener at 17:28. It departs at 17:33 for London. Seems to be a very “real” test of service. Tests will run all week.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
I have a nasty feeling that we are about to discover how long it takes to get from Toronto to London via the north mainline while making every single stop along the way...
A more optimistic scenario is that they introduce a new express trip departing about 20 minutes later than the current local run (getting to Kitchener about 5 minutes later than the current trip) and cut the current run back to Bramalea or Georgetown or something. They do in any case need to update the Kitchener-Toronto schedules to reflect the improved track speeds through Guelph.
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Bordercollie
Senior Member
If you are commuting from Toronto or Guelph or Kitchener it would make more sense to use VIA. The GO train would be more for London to St Mary's or Stratford or to Kitchener.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
When the Liberals were looking at this along with the high speed rail option it was through the lens of purchasing the track and getting the greatest return on that investment. I'm hoping any announcement of service to London includes owning the track so that it translates to infrastructure improvements over time that increase speed, otherwise this will be the painfully slow route to London.