BrettB
Active Member
Lots of security moving people along on the mezzanine level of Central Station this afternoon.
Although i support further exploration of faregates, the idea of putting faregates on only two stations as a trial run seems silly? It's hard to imagine any meaningful information being gleaned from that.
Turnstiles to be studied and re-tabled for discussion in summer 2024.
All underground stations were built for them. Renovations might have changed it a little, however, in some of them.Which old stations are built for faregates? Churchill, Central, Bay, Corona... Coliseum? and I can't remember, did Government Centre have a spot for them? Stadium used to be but now that's changed.
Does that also include University station?All underground stations were built for them. Renovations might have changed it a little, however, in some of them.
Looking at the layout, wouldn't be hard to install them in all of the DT stations, Coliseum, Southgate and Century Park.
The Calgary study gets cited a ton. Are there others examples of cities that have or haven’t done them with data and research behind them? It’s hard because it’s so contextual…but it’s a costly thing to do if it doesn’t solve the problem.A number of recent incidents have happened on the platforms (ie. the fare paid areas), so I understand the push for fare gates. The more central stations had them or were built for them at one time.
So, it really shouldn't be too hard to add them. Of course this is government and there seems to be little incentive for cost control, so it probably costs $20,000 to change a light bulb.
Another reason is perceptions around safety and I think even a number on council now realize something needs to be done so people will have confidence to use LRT and transit more again.
If I’m not mistaken they had ditched the turnstiles by the time University was built but I don’t think it would be that hard given the huge open spaces in the station and multiple levels to choose fromDoes that also include University station?
Churchill, Central had them, Bay, and Corona were built for them. Government Centre and University were not. In particular there is one elevator at University that goes from street level to platform level which sort of falls outside of the traditional fare collection areas. I think Government Centre is fine. I know for sure the south end you need to transfer elevators so the elevator to platform level can fall within the paid area, but I am not 100% sure about the north end. Central and Churchill's elevators fell outside of the fare paid area for the turnstiles. They had separate machines for fare collection that didn't have the turnstile component. Essentially back when the LRT opened, you could avoid the turnstiles just by using an elevator Downtown.All underground stations were built for them. Renovations might have changed it a little, however, in some of them.
Looking at the layout, wouldn't be hard to install them in all of the DT stations, Coliseum, Southgate and Century Park.
I expect the Province to step up and take responsibility just like the police did after dropping off and interacting with the Chinatown double homicide perpetrator. /s
Can we finally point fingers at the Province, who has been downloading the burden to the Cities and subsequently blaming them for not doing enough?
(The answer is NO.)