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That is why I found it hilarious when Millienials who pride themselves over not judging entire peoples based on stereotypes embrace memes like "boomer remover" or "ok Boomer".
It's more of a Gen Z thing. But quite frankly, considering the mess Boomers have left future generations, it's not unsurprising either. Add on the endless supply of criticism Boomers lay on younger generations they have ample reason to strike back.
 
It's more of a Gen Z thing. But quite frankly, considering the mess Boomers have left future generations, it's not unsurprising either. Add on the endless supply of criticism Boomers lay on younger generations they have ample reason to strike back.


True but I think its best to stick to the issues then pit whole groups against each other.

We are not two vast aliens swarms with a hive mind facing off ?
 
Won't go into today's numbers in detail; except to say everything is either trending positive or stable.

Will share the actual/modelling chart today from the province which shows past and current hospital resource allocation.

We have thus far performed better than the best case scenario. Ample capacity available (more than 80%) and appear to have reached or passed the peak.

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Won't go into today's numbers in detail; except to say everything is either trending positive or stable.

Will share the actual/modelling chart today from the province which shows past and current hospital resource allocation.

We have thus far performed better than the best case scenario. Ample capacity available (more than 80%) and appear to have reached or passed the peak.

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Should "USA" be its own "scenario"? Depends on the state.
 
Should "USA" be its own "scenario"? Depends on the state.

The U.S. is most certainly its own scenario; and as with Canada it really is a regional story and would be even if the handling of it didn't vary so widely.

This really, with rare exceptions is the story of urban clusters and super-clusters; and how each is managed, contained etc.
 
Almost all residents in Owen Sound, Ont. nursing home have COVID-19

From link.

The Grey-Bruce Health Unit says 22 of 29 residents in the Mapleview Long-Term Care Home in Owen Sound have tested positive for COVID-19.

Fifteen members of the staff have also tested positive.

This is the largest outbreak of COVID-19 in Midwestern Ontario.

Of the 63 positive tests in Grey-Bruce as of Sunday afternoon, 42 live in Owen Sound, with 37 of those 42 in the Mapleview Long-Term Care Home.

Grey-Bruce Medical Officer of Health Dr. Ian Arra, says while the outbreak is very concerning, he’s happy to report that none of the residents or staff at Mapleview have died, or have needed to be hospitalized.

He says strict isolation and cleaning procedures have been implemented at Mapleview since the first positive test a few weeks ago.

There was a large spike in new cases reported in Grey-Bruce on Saturday - 14 new cases, all of them at Mapleview.
 
When the the Greatest and Silent Generation (born 1910 to 45) started dying off in the 1980s to 2000s there was a massive transfer in wealth, as the experience of the Depression, wars and pandemics let them to save their money, eschew debt and lived frugally. This huge inheritance went to the Boomers, who wasted it in driving up housing prices, investing in e-com bust junk stocks, spending hugely on renovations (i.e. paying someone else for what their parents would have either done themselves or lived without), and glam vacations (their parents drove to the local beach for a weekend and paid cash for a drive up motel, the Boomer went to Bali on credit). Boomers took this inheritance and once it was gone continued in huge increases in debt-fueled consumption.

Now that Boomers are expiring, their Gen X and Z offspring will inherit very little. When my parents died they still owed on the mortgage, not that I ever wanted or expected anything. When my grandparents died my parents inherited a Muskoka cottage, which they quickly sold to, you guessed it, pay someone else to renovate their house, and then took the money to put a down payment on a new, bigger house with more debt, etc. I'm doing it differently for my kids - the trick is to give them the property help or funds before you croak, so to avoid taxes.

The big Covid clear out of our long term and senior care residences is going to be a shocker to many an estate executor, where homes and assets thought to be a windfall for the adult kids are nothing but a banker's mirage.

My dad grew up on a farm during the Depression, so kind of a double whammy lesson of fiscal frugality. He paid cash for everything with the notable exception of a mortgage. I think his first new car was in 1963 and it was the most basic of models - no radio. I have to admit I resort to debt more often but did inherit many of his financial traits.

We have been providing funds to our daughter now when she needs it rather than wait for the estate. She came out of post secondary debt-free as a result. The balancing act is to not impoverish ourselves in the process, otherwise we've told her we'll have to move in with her (yikes!). We all hope to avoid long term care homes for various reasons, including cost, but don't know what the future holds. My mom died when I was young and dad died in his bed at home. My mother-in-law was in long term care and it wasn't a great experience. The father-in-law is in Sunnybrook Veterans Centre which is excellent both in terms of cost and quality of care, but that is admittedly a somewhat unique cadre.

Urban housing costs aside, which I am not smart enough to understand all of the background factors, to my generation, the apparent ease that the more recently arrived on the planet enter into voluntary debt for things like lifestyle, entertainment, etc. is quite foreign. I used to have a retirement gig doing background checks for a government-regulated industry and would regular review credit reports. Quite aside from things like student debt, the consistently high amounts owed to credit cards, payday loan sharks and telecom companies, oftentimes in default or arrears, stuck me as quite astonishing.

I'm not sure I get that we boomers have left a mess for following generations but I suppose that type of refrain has gone on throughout history. Certainly, climate change on the negative side (if you believe) and high national debt, but, on the plus side, one of the longest global or large-scale shootin' war-free periods in history, unprecedented average live expectancy, medical advances and the foundation for today's technology.

Much like we tire of politicians blaming the state of affairs on the previous government, and some point it starts to sound like an excuse.
 
My dad grew up on a farm during the Depression, so kind of a double whammy lesson of fiscal frugality. He paid cash for everything with the notable exception of a mortgage. I think his first new car was in 1963 and it was the most basic of models - no radio. I have to admit I resort to debt more often but did inherit many of his financial traits.

We have been providing funds to our daughter now when she needs it rather than wait for the estate. She came out of post secondary debt-free as a result. The balancing act is to not impoverish ourselves in the process, otherwise we've told her we'll have to move in with her (yikes!). We all hope to avoid long term care homes for various reasons, including cost, but don't know what the future holds. My mom died when I was young and dad died in his bed at home. My mother-in-law was in long term care and it wasn't a great experience. The father-in-law is in Sunnybrook Veterans Centre which is excellent both in terms of cost and quality of care, but that is admittedly a somewhat unique cadre.

Urban housing costs aside, which I am not smart enough to understand all of the background factors, to my generation, the apparent ease that the more recently arrived on the planet enter into voluntary debt for things like lifestyle, entertainment, etc. is quite foreign. I used to have a retirement gig doing background checks for a government-regulated industry and would regular review credit reports. Quite aside from things like student debt, the consistently high amounts owed to credit cards, payday loan sharks and telecom companies, oftentimes in default or arrears, stuck me as quite astonishing.

I'm not sure I get that we boomers have left a mess for following generations but I suppose that type of refrain has gone on throughout history. Certainly, climate change on the negative side (if you believe) and high national debt, but, on the plus side, one of the longest global or large-scale shootin' war-free periods in history, unprecedented average live expectancy, medical advances and the foundation for today's technology.

Much like we tire of politicians blaming the state of affairs on the previous government, and some point it starts to sound like an excuse.

First, I commend your fiscal probity! Right in line w/my type of thinking.

Second, every generation laments both the one that came before, that had to be rebelled against in some way; and the one that follows, which is likewise rebelling against the sins, both real and perceived of its predecessor.

With respect to the boomers, there are reasons for complaint, as there are to laud.

In needs to be said, of course, as with any generation it is comprised of different people, individuals and communities, so any generalization may apply in whole or in part to a plurality or a majority that generations members, but surely wouldn't apply them all.

But taken as a whole, particularly in the North American context, 'boomers' were the generation born from '46-'64; growing up through an enormous boom with the standard of living growing by leaps and bounds yearly.

This was the first generation to experience real wage growth on an enormous scale.

Look at this chart; showing that real wage peaked, in 1973; as the first and second-wave boomers came into the workforce; and through that first period of flat growth saw add-ons like Medicare/Medicaid in the U.S., Universal Healthcare here, the advent of CPP; and exceedingly affordably university tuitions.

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All while having benefited as children from having had their moms at home by and large. (not an argument against feminism/equality, but about rising household incomes with relatively greater social supports).

But as the boomers take power, beginning in the 1980s, we enter the longest period of real-wage stagnation in decades.

The Gen X'ers and Millenials that follow will never see the workplace pensions, and benefits of their parents, will have less job security because those things were claimed by a generation who also then championed low taxes and low-cost consumer goods that took them away from the next 2.

Meh; we all have our faults. Each generation does things that adversely effect or annoy the next.

To the credit of Boomers, that generation did most of the heavy lifting for women's rights; gay rights, and reducing racial inequities (though a long way to go on that one)

The Boomers over threw the "Archie Bunkers' of the world; but replaced them with Reaganonmics, Thatcherism, off-shoring, right-sizing and consumerist gluttony.

Can't win'em all, LOL
 
That chart is a beautiful illustration of what's wrong with society and human greed.

That's the graph showing the salary of those who did the actual work.
Now let's see the graph depicting the incomes of those who didn't do shit and made all their money on the backs of the ones whose salaries are illustrated in the first graph.

Glad I work for myself. Propping up the Bezoses of the world through my hard work would make me suicidal. Instead people are told to be proud of the fact that they slave away for some wealthy twat, make peanuts, and are indentured to banks.

People in the US right now are protesting for the right to go back to slaving away so they can make people like Bezos even more obscenely wealthy whilst risking their own health.

That's a mental illness, folks.
 

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