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Northern Light said:
Important to also state, that if you're coming in as a foreign student…
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Aren’t the students expected to leave after they graduate? I‘ve got friends who went to Australia to get their MBAs and the Caribbean for vet school, but there was never any suggestion that their studies were a path to emigration. It’s supposed to be, come to Canada to study as an adventure or to expand your skills and credentials and then go home.
 
Admiral Beez said:
Aren’t the students expected to leave after they graduate? I‘ve got friends who went to Australia to get their MBAs and the Caribbean for vet school, but there was never any suggestion that their studies were a path to emigration. It’s supposed to be, come to Canada to study as an adventure or to expand your skills and credentials and then go home.
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Here's your answer:

Work or live in Canada after you graduate - Canada.ca

Work or live in Canada after you graduate
www.canada.ca www.canada.ca

I'll just copy the top of the page from the link above for everyone:

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Admiral Beez said:
Aren’t the students expected to leave after they graduate? I‘ve got friends who went to Australia to get their MBAs and the Caribbean for vet school, but there was never any suggestion that their studies were a path to emigration. It’s supposed to be, come to Canada to study as an adventure or to expand your skills and credentials and then go home.
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We'd have less than 10% of the students and quality would be far worse if there was no potential to gain residency after. That's literally our trump card. Sure, you can get a more recognized and renowned education in the UK or US. Or you can get an education in a beautiful climate in Australia or New Zealand. But Canada is the only place that will give you a shot at making a life here.

Honestly, this is not a bad policy. Students make the best immigrants. They arrive at a point in their lives where they are open to being acculturated. They have to learn the language as part of their education. And they gain skills and certification that don't have additional accreditation burden. We didn't pay anything to raise these kids. But they'll pay 3-4x domestic tuition and then spend their whole working lives paying taxes here.

It was not a bad deal until the Liberals abused the hell out of it and turned into an immigration scheme substantially designed to help bypass the traditional point system. They even set it up to reward the least ambitious students. To qualify for PR, you have to attain a years worth of work experience during your two years of work permit after school. This is difficult for any tech trade or STEM grad. But do a 1 yr administration diploma and just get a paper pushing job or a 1 yr marketing diploma and go sell cars for a year and you'll qualify for PR. So instead of getting the construction, tech and healthcare workers we want, we're just getting more generic grads. And their net contribution is higher rent and lower wages.
 
kEiThZ said:
It was not a bad deal until the Liberals abused the hell out of it and turned into an immigration scheme substantially designed to help bypass the traditional point system.
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Plus the provinces use it as a means to underfund post secondary education. It’s no wonder that Ontario’s colleges and universities scour the world for foreign students of any pedigree for funds.
 
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I don't want to sound like some grizzled oldster pining for the old days, but I can't help but feel that Canada was just fine as it was in the early 1990s. Yes we had a recession, but housing and postsec education were affordable, proper f/t jobs with benefits and pensions were the norm, immigration seemingly made sense, with the TFWP focused on agricultural workers or highly skilled professionals. Canada was alright. Why'd we need to mess with it.

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Temporary foreign worker program in Canada - Wikipedia

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  • When TFWP began in 1973, most of the individuals brought in were high-skill workers, such as medical specialists.
  • In 2002, however, a "low-skilled workers" category was added, which now makes up most of the temporary foreign workforce.
 
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Admiral Beez said:
I don't want to sound like some grizzled oldster pining for the old days, but I can't help but feel that Canada was just fine as it was in the early 1990s. Yes we had a recession, but housing and postsec education were affordable, proper f/t jobs with benefits and pensions were the norm. Immigration made sense. Canada was alright. Why'd we need to mess with it.
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Admiral, I am by no means a geezer like yourself however I was born in 1987.

I agree with you. I look back at what Canada was, the Canada I grew up in and the Canada my parents raised me in only to ask myself what happened.

My parents always tell me that I need a good job with a pension and benefits or that I need to buy my own place. What I tell them is that jobs with a pension are hard to find now and that buying a house is a pipe dream.
 
Born in 1984. What happened was boomers pulling the ladders up, and fetishization of capitalism gone awry.
 
Sure. Had nothing to do with years of conservative governments. This is solely the responsibility of the government that is holding the hot potato during a global crisis that has nothing to do with it either.
 
picard102 said:
Sure. Had nothing to do with years of conservative governments. This is solely the responsibility of the government that is holding the hot potato during a global crisis that has nothing to do with it either.
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NAFTA may have played a role. It was the worst thing we ever did.
 
picard102 said:
Sure. Had nothing to do with years of conservative governments. This is solely the responsibility of the government that is holding the hot potato during a global crisis that has nothing to do with it either.
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How many years does a Liberal government have to be in office before you are actually willing to blame them for something? Give us a number. 8 years isn't enough apparently. So is it 10? 15? 20?

And it was their policy choices that have exacerbated these problems. It was the LPC that has tripled immigration intake while claiming housing was a provincial problem. It's only crappy polls of late that have them starting to make a show of caring about housing and pretending they are going to stabilize immigration.

And COVID is a ridiculous cop out. Housing prices were already skyrocketing before the pandemic thanks to unprecedented demand. Their overly generous COVID aid simply added fuel to an already burning fire.
 
picard102 said:
Sure. Had nothing to do with years of conservative governments. This is solely the responsibility of the government that is holding the hot potato during a global crisis that has nothing to do with it either.
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Most of my lifetime in Canada since I arrived in 1976 was spent under Liberal rule. But I'm not playing favourites, both parties let down this country.

Justin Trudeau 2015 to Present
Stephen Harper 2006 to 2015
Paul Martin 2003 to 2006
Jean Chretien 1993 to 2003
Kim Campbell 1993
Brian Mulroney 1984 to 1993
John Turner 1984
Pierre Trudeau 1980 to 1984
Joe Clark 1979 to 1980
Pierre Trudeau 1968 to 1979
 
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