Videodrome
Senior Member
Huh? Tory won.
A good amount of my Twitter followers hate Tory. Some think he is worse than Rob Ford. However, none of them voted for him in 2014, so I tend to dismiss it.
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Huh? Tory won.
A good amount of my Twitter followers hate Tory. Some think he is worse than Rob Ford. However, none of them voted for him in 2014, so I tend to dismiss it.
OneCity
Senior Member
The twitter-verse is overrun with extreme views and political party operatives paid to influence. By no means should Twitter ever be used to determine reality. Both the far Left wing tweeters hate Tory and far Right wing tweeters hate Tory.
The reason Keesmaat has no chance this election is because people are actually overall happy with Tory and no one is looking for "bold" change at this time. Secession was a gift out of the gate for him to go after as he'll highlight any items that may be seen as polarizing.
The reason none of the other 35 Mayoral candidate have a chance is well, sadly the media already decided there will only be two candidates for us. Yes there is over 30 candidates being completely ignored before Keesmaat even had a platform. Party politics at its worst in this City. Even the Sun has ignored Faith Goldy who would be supported by a sizable portion of extreme readership as their eggs are clearly in Torys basket. Our media is hyper politicized and this has never sat well with me when it comes to fair elections.
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adma
Superstar
*Could*. And if so, that'd be in token lieu of a hard-right contender a la the Fords.
Whether she gets easy oxygen in the form of debate inclusion; or in the form of people *willingly*, in the face of risk, putting up signage et al for her; is another matter...
adma
Superstar
You sound like a disgruntled failed candidate yourself ;-)
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
The property tax is not the problem.
The problem is the egregious amounts of land wasted on single family detached housing.
This, by the way, is a true inefficiency. Just saying, since that's the word of the year.
Thorns_Embrace
Active Member
My point exactly
OneCity
Senior Member
And you sound like a failed detective and troll.
I'm just a regular engaged citizen who would like to see fair and open races in our democracy for all candidates instead of having them chosen for us and having these other voices completely ignored by media. Crazy talk huh?
Instead of throwing insults maybe you can explain why you believe this type of closed party politics is good for our democracy? Maybe there are some good reasons I haven't thought of... Feel free to try to justify your trolling sarcasm.
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steveintoronto
Superstar
Bring her on! She certainly won't be taking any votes from Keesmaat, so who'd be losing votes to her? One guess...
OneCity
Senior Member
Goldy helps Keesmaat as she can take some Fordnation from Tory making it a bit closer. Still not close, but closer. Likely the reason shes been ignored by some Right wing media who are in with Tory as the easiest path to work with Ford. There are other very good progressive Left candidates who are signed up to run for Mayor that unfortunately would take votes from Keesmaat that are also now completely silenced by the Left
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Videodrome
Senior Member
Yes, aside from Warmington, most other Sun people aren't giving her airtime. Outside of Twitter, she is likely an unknown.
She won't get many votes, even from Ford Nation types.
adma
Superstar
As I said, "*Could*. And *if so*", etc...
But I agree there's likely a lot of trollish signal-to-noise here re Goldy; and "marginal" candidates tend to have a dismal record in competitive or semi-competitive Toronto elections--particularly if we consider the likelihood that unlike LeDrew or even Goldkind, she isn't likely to be (and probably shouldn't be, for the sake of decorum et al) included in major-media debates.
Though of course, the one subtle critical thing that'd grant her "legitimacy" is if polling companies actually include Faith Goldy together with Tory and Keesmaat in voting-intention questions. *Don't* include her; and the threat she represents dissipates substantially...
Jasmine18
Senior Member
Keesmat problem is she wont get much support from the Suburbs.
Avenue
Active Member
https://www.twitter.com/normsworld/status/1026525511130988544
Tory is absolutely shameless. He clearly has a backroom deal with Ford and all that fighting it in the court stuff is a lie.
Tory is absolutely shameless. He clearly has a backroom deal with Ford and all that fighting it in the court stuff is a lie.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Both John Tory and Doug Ford are Progressive Conservatives.
However, John Tory is more on the PROGRESSIVE side of the Progressive Conservatives. John used to be an assistant to Premier Bill Davis. John knows how to get things done.
Doug Ford is more on the CONSERVATIVE side of the Progressive Conservatives. Only because of nepotism because Doug's father, Douglas Ford Sr., was a one-term backbencher on the the Mike Harris government. No real non-nepotism work on Doug Ford Jr.'s part.
toaster29
Active Member
Brought on by herself. When the suburbs wanted transit or better urban built form, she did nothing. Even progressives in the burbs won't be voting for her.