Woodbridge_Heights said:
At this point VIVA BRT/LRT should suffice for the forseeable future
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Indeed, with an eye to the best mode later. What holds true for the Yonge extension further north also applies to the TYSSE and as part of the discussion for regional transit in general for York.

Here's the spectre of what's imminent:
York Region leaders back plan to upload TTC subway to province
By BEN SPURRTransportation Reporter
Thu., Oct. 4, 2018

Political leaders in York Region are backing Premier Doug Ford’s plan to have the province take ownership of Toronto’s subway network, arguing it could help secure the construction of a controversial transit project north of the city’s border.
Markham Mayor Frank Scarpitti released a statement Wednesday saying the Ontario Progressive Conservative government’s proposal to upload the Toronto Transit Commission subway system could put a stop to the “never-ending jurisdictional issues” he suggested had delayed the completion of the Yonge subway extension to Richmond Hill. [...]
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https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...ck-plan-to-upload-ttc-subway-to-province.html

Most of the emphasis is on the Yonge extension, but Vaughan is just as apt as "Pickering" for subway mania.

Meantime:
Hwy. 407 subway station in Vaughan ranks among least used on TTC network
Downsview Park has lowest ridership of six stops on new Spadina subway extension, York University station is best performing stop
NEWS Dec 17, 2018 by Ben Spurr Toronto Star
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At a speech to the Toronto Region Board of Trade last month, Ontario Transportation Minister Jeff Yurek depicted the stations as an example of government waste, saying they looked like they had been built to resemble “Taj Mahals, as opposed to being functional as they were required.”

“To me, to our government, that’s a serious problem,” said Yurek, the Ontario PC MPP for Elgin-Middlesex-London. The extension was opened under the previous Liberal government.

The entire extension went well over budget. It was initially supposed to end near York University and cost only $1.5 billion, but delays and the decision to extend it to Vaughan centre dramatically increased the cost. The project was paid for by the City of Toronto, York Region, and the provincial and federal governments.

When the extension opened the TTC estimated it would cost the agency $25 million a year to operate. The TTC predicted the new stops would attract 1.2 million net new customers to the network each year, a fraction of the more than 530 million who used the transit agency in 2017.
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https://www.yorkregion.com/news-sto...aughan-ranks-among-least-used-on-ttc-network/

Flip that over to see the hidden message: "We're open to extending it, to justify what's already built, but without the ostentatious mega-stations". And I at least half agree, save not doing it as TTC gauge, but standard gauge LRT. Like it or not, this discussion is coming, but meantime @Woodbridge_Heights Busway suggestion is by far the best way to modify/mollify the upcoming discussion.
 
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This is just embarrassing for Global News, they drew the subway along Keele instead of Jane:
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This is way worse than Metrolinx making the mistake on the Bathurst/Centre Viva Rapidway staying on Highway 7:
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Fix the transit fare fiasco at York U — for all our sakes

See link.

This week, a transit cut at York University kicks in, making things a little worse and more expensive for thousands of York U students, faculty and staff.
It took over 10 years for the subway extension to reach York U. But instead of integrating the subway with existing buses — one trip, one fare — the York Region buses that used to travel to the centre of the York University campus are now diverting to the Pioneer Village subway stop.
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This change leaves commuters with a new, unfair choice: pay another full fare to ride just one subway stop into the centre of campus, or walk 1.5 km to the university.

In other words, pay double, or walk.

Greater Toronto Area riders already pay some of the highest fares in Canada, and this change will cost York U riders as much as $1,000 year.


The problem will get worse. On Saturday, Metrolinx was to being diverting all GO buses from the centre of campus to the Hwy 407 subway stop, which is 3.8 kilometres from York University. Brampton buses will be leaving campus in 2019.

For everyone, this means the daily commute will take longer and cost more. For those on a tight budget, the blow is a serious one. And for those with mobility challenges, the daily demand to pay double or walk is a cruel one.

Listening to the powers-that-be justify this callous decision was bizarre, blaming it on territorial agreements made years ago under the assumption that fare integration between agencies would be in place by now.

Well, it’s not. The Liberals had 15 years to get it done, and they let us down. And now the Ford Tories are making things worse by plowing ahead with this patchwork scheme.

For the record, the NDP and I support fare integration. That means making fares more affordable for riders who use two or more transit systems in one trip by charging one affordable fare. We believe transit should be run like a public service — its job is to get you where you need to go (comfortably, with dignity, quickly) for the most affordable price at which we can make that happen.
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Doug Ford wants to run transit like a business, which means making as much money off you as possible.

That’s why the Ford government and Metrolinx have been mulling over introducing premium fares on the subway, or even fare-by-distance, which will be a double penalty for people who have been priced out of living in Toronto.

Thankfully, the problem at York U isn’t complicated or expensive to solve. Put the buses back and have the provincial government properly fund operations.

Beyond fixing the problem for the York U community, this is a cautionary tale. With Ford threatening to take over Toronto’s subways, it’s time for us to fight for the transit future we want. Because York U students deserve better — and so do we all.
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Why is transit integration between two provinces easier than between cities or regions within the GTA? Where's passport control?

From link:
There are two city bus systems in Canada’s Capital Region. OC Transpo (613-741-4390) operates in the Ontario side of the Ottawa River and the Société de Transport de l’Outaouais (819-770-3242) operates on the Québec side. You can transfer between these systems along Rideau and Wellington Streets in Ottawa and around the Place d’accueil on Maisonneuve Boulevard in Gatineau. Both agencies offer convenient trip planning tools on their websites.
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When transferring at 407 Terminal, do GO bus users get a $1.5 co-fare or am I remembering wrong?
 
pstogios said:
It’s not any more embarrassing than Google, one of the world’s largest companies. still not showing a yellow marker for the TYSSE on Google Maps more than a year after it has been open.
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I think them being one of the world's largest companies is precisely why they haven't updated the transit map. They are so huge that this is a comparatively minor issue for them that gets lost in the hustle and bustle.
 
Neutrino said:
I think them being one of the world's largest companies is precisely why they haven't updated the transit map. They are so huge that this is a comparatively minor issue for them that gets lost in the hustle and bustle.
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Obviously, they have more important things to do. Updating a map is not important.
 
This is easily solveable by having the GO buses alight their passengers in a paid-fare zone of the station.

If TTC has an issue with it, they should send the bill to York Region. The respective municipal bureaucrats should be the ones facing the incidence of the issue, not the passengers.
 
Neutrino said:
I think them being one of the world's largest companies is precisely why they haven't updated the transit map. They are so huge that this is a comparatively minor issue for them that gets lost in the hustle and bustle.
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Google has a least one office in Toronto. Not one employee thought to contact their team to update the yellow marker? That’s incompetence.
 
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