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ksun said:
there is only 4 stops on University.
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Palma said:
There are 5 stops
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NO NO NO NO. There are no subway stops on University Avenue. There are several bus stops but no subway stops.

I've never heard of something as absolutely absurd as having a subway stop on a street. How the heck would that even work? Would the train get it's own dedicated tracks on University Avenue with raised platforms on the sidewalks? Doesn't sound safe at all. What an idiotic idea.

I'll stop being a smart ass now.

There are four stations under University Avenue. St. Andrew, Osgoode, St. Patrick and Queen's Park. The station boxes for those four are actually under University Avenue.

I'd hope the reason it was called the University Subway is obvious to most of us. The 1963 University Subway extension started at Union and terminated at St. George. The majority of the route ran under University Avenue, hence the name University.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
I'd hope the reason it was called the University Subway is obvious to most of us. The 1963 University Subway extension started at Union and terminated at St. George. The majority of the route ran under University Avenue, hence the name University.
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Trains terminated at St. George until the line was extended past there, up Spadina and all the way to Wilson in 1978.

When the Bloor-Danforth line opened in 1966, remember that there were Yonge-University-Bloor and Yonge-University-Danforth trains in addition to the Bloor-Danforth trains.

So the University part of the name was briefly essential. However, this time has long-since passed, the triple-barrel name should be simplified.
 
nfitz said:
Trains terminated at St. George until the line was extended past there, up Spadina and all the way to Wilson in 1978.

When the Bloor-Danforth line opened in 1966, remember that there were Yonge-University-Bloor and Yonge-University-Danforth trains in addition to the Bloor-Danforth trains.

So the University part of the name was briefly essential. However, this time has long-since passed, the triple-barrel name should be simplified.
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Just do like the Bakerloo in London and call that side the Spadinaversity line.
 
nfitz said:
Trains terminated at St. George until the line was extended past there, up Spadina and all the way to Wilson in 1978.

When the Bloor-Danforth line opened in 1966, remember that there were Yonge-University-Bloor and Yonge-University-Danforth trains in addition to the Bloor-Danforth trains.

So the University part of the name was briefly essential. However, this time has long-since passed, the triple-barrel name should be simplified.
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We should just use the number names the TTC rolled out. The 1 line is wonderfully simple and easy. The TTC will need to destroy all references to the old names if this scheme is to work. The lines aren't going to follow one street as they get expanded, except possibly for the Yonge alignment of the 1. We've known that since the Spadina line opened in the 1970s. The name "Spadina line" only makes sense if you know the history of the Spadina Expressway, which is becoming increasingly esoteric.

Naming lines after a street seems dated and parochial. It limits how we think about line extensions--that they have to keep following one street, or we're doing something wrong or unconventional. The simple number names will probably encourage planners to come up with more flexible and sophisticated alignments than those limited to following one street.
 
AlbertHWagstaff said:
Go back a few pages, the naming was related to the Spadina Expressway, not Spadina Road.
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Still it doe4s not make sense to name it Spadina. Those not familiar with the system will think it really does run along a street called Spadina, like stops on Yonge and stops along Bloor
 
junctionist said:
We should just use the number names the TTC rolled out. The 1 line is wonderfully simple and easy. The TTC will need to destroy all references to the old names if this scheme is to work. The lines aren't going to follow one street as they get expanded, except possibly for the Yonge alignment of the 1. We've known that since the Spadina line opened in the 1970s. The name "Spadina line" only makes sense if you know the history of the Spadina Expressway, which is becoming increasingly esoteric.

Naming lines after a street seems dated and parochial. It limits how we think about line extensions--that they have to keep following one street, or we're doing something wrong or unconventional. The simple number names will probably encourage planners to come up with more flexible and sophisticated alignments than those limited to following one street.
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I agree.
Just rename the lines by numbers and get rid of the long street names right away. The TTC acts like people in Toronto are so stupid that they can't even remember 4 lines. How hard is that??

If Toronto had 20 lines, that is a different matter.

Everyone knows the YUS name is misleading, not many mentioned that BD is misleading too. After Main station, it doesn't run on Danforth.
 
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It should clearly be called:

Yonge-Front-University-Spadina-Cedarvale Ravine-Allen Rd-Sheppard-Keele-York University-Jane

AKA Line 1: YFUSCrArSKYJ line
 
junctionist said:
We should just use the number names the TTC rolled out. The 1 line is wonderfully simple and easy. The TTC will need to destroy all references to the old names if this scheme is to work. The lines aren't going to follow one street as they get expanded, except possibly for the Yonge alignment of the 1. We've known that since the Spadina line opened in the 1970s. The name "Spadina line" only makes sense if you know the history of the Spadina Expressway, which is becoming increasingly esoteric.

Naming lines after a street seems dated and parochial. It limits how we think about line extensions--that they have to keep following one street, or we're doing something wrong or unconventional. The simple number names will probably encourage planners to come up with more flexible and sophisticated alignments than those limited to following one street.
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Planners are actually quite fond of the grid system. It's more efficient than a system of spaghetti lines.
 
Moving in a diagonal line through an area is generally faster than if you have to follow two perpendicular lines. A line that doesn't follow a single road could more efficiently connect the high density areas that are scattered around the city. Line 2 leaves the Danforth to serve Crescent Town, for instance--a neighbourhood with higher density than what one finds on the Danforth in the area.
 
junctionist said:
Moving in a diagonal line through an area is generally faster than if you have to follow two perpendicular lines. A line that doesn't follow a single road could more efficiently connect the high density areas that are scattered around the city. Line 2 leaves the Danforth to serve Crescent Town, for instance--a neighbourhood with higher density than what one finds on the Danforth in the area.
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It leaves Danforth and serves Crescent Town but I'm not sure it leaves to serve Crescent Town. The station was built a year or two before the buildings IIRC. They could have had the subsequent development plans in mind, but then I think there were also supposed to be towers south of Danforth as well—that's where the Scarborough Expressway would have run. A subway at Danforth could have served both. Leaving Danforth probably has more to do with connecting to the old railway alignment used for the above-ground stretch of the line.
 
It serves Crescent Town on a diagonal alignment. One can see the advantage of such an alignment, regardless of whether or not it was planned to serve Crescent Town originally.
 
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