narduch
Senior Member
Another interesting thing that seems to be happening is the NDP taking support away from the Conservatives in Ontario.
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BurlOak
Senior Member
If anyone likes Chretien, I would say policy wise Harper and Scheer are the closest we've seen since.
(Maybe Ignatieff too).
Richard White
Senior Member
That's not surprising. With Dougie in power here in Ontario people are leery about voting conservative. The Rhinocerous Party would do well here.
Even John Turmel could win in Ontario right now though I think the shock would likely kill him.
Hopkins123
Senior Member
This is simply not true:
NDP is siphoning support from the Liberals, not Conservatives. Even Oshawa, which a few months ago y'all were convinced that the Tories would lose to the NDP, is looking solidly in our camp.
Richard White
Senior Member
I am looking at the seat projections online and if the numbers hold true we could have a statistical tie.
338canada.com is predicting 132 seats for the CPC and 131 for the LPC. This gets me thinking.. what happens if the top 2 parties get an equal number of seats? Who would form government if both the CPC and LPC get 132 seats for example.
338canada.com is predicting 132 seats for the CPC and 131 for the LPC. This gets me thinking.. what happens if the top 2 parties get an equal number of seats? Who would form government if both the CPC and LPC get 132 seats for example.
Videodrome
Senior Member
Same with Cannis signs in our area.
No joke, I would love to see him finally win. He is an independent candidate for Brantford-Brant.
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Richard White
Senior Member
I can see Cannis winning the riding back. Salma Zahid is an interesting woman.. very quiet and only won because she is a LPC candidate. She is one of those candidates that won but had no clue what they were doing when they did.
As for John Turmel he is on his 99th election this year in Brantford. I think if he won there would likely be a recount.. hell I would question the numbers if he won.
Richard White
Senior Member
One thing I will say about the current LPC Caucus is that they are all a very interesting group. They are all spokespeople for the party but individually they are not capable of free thought. They were the face of the party, but other than that they were useless.
I noticed during the most recent session that most members of the LPC caucus were trotted out at announcements, whining about how they were wronged or something of that nature. You hardly heard about them outside policy announcements and none of them had any ideas of their own, only LPC ideas.
I noticed during the most recent session that most members of the LPC caucus were trotted out at announcements, whining about how they were wronged or something of that nature. You hardly heard about them outside policy announcements and none of them had any ideas of their own, only LPC ideas.
BurlOak
Senior Member
Not everyone, just Trudeau - and anyone who supports him.
There is: Blackface, Blackface, Canoe sheds, mixing up Chinese and Japanese because they look alike, brownfiles, India trip, mocking turbans and calling Singh Marge Simpson, and did I mention Blackface.
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Richard White
Senior Member
While this is a forum about the 2019 Election I doubt anything is to be gained by being racist towards others. I get it, you don't like Trudeau but droning on and on about him being racist is starting to become a tad annoying.
adma
Superstar
Actually, what I find more intriguing is how, despite Jagmeet and everything, the Greens seem to be *holding* their high-single-digit-range support, i.e. they still seem to be tokenly benefiting from being not one of the two major parties.
And with that in mind, I can still allow for them to be incrementally a factor in your usual Guelph/Fredericton/PEI places.
Richard White
Senior Member
I can see them winning in Guelph as they have a seat there already provincially. I don't see them winning many seats though. Interestingly enough if the seat count is deadlocked their 1 or 2 seats can make all the difference.
adma
Superstar
Actually, re "y'all": while Oshawa will be eternal hallowed ground/promised land for the NDP owing to its GM/Broadbentian history, I wouldn't say "we'all" were at all "convinced" a few months ago. And it's not just because of the one-bitten-twice-shy factor of it eluding the NDP for the past quarter century or more (Jennifer French provincially excepted), it's also because "we'all" knew those few months ago that the NDP was in worse shape than it's in now, and even Jagmeet's byelection victory couldn't lift it off the polling ground. With that under consideration (plus Jennifer French's provincial reelection close call), why would we have assumed that an Oshawa pickup was a given?
For the NDP to pick Oshawa up, it'd require not just a Jagmeet surge, but Scheer '19 as the new Hudak '14, Which isn't beyond possibility in the current climate.
And as always, stop suckling on 338. They're projections, not actual polls.
adma
Superstar
As I've said before, Cannis's ungrammatical "return back" signs suggest that his main-drag sign presence isn't going to be matched at the polling booth (and probably also offers some clue as to how he lost in 2011 after years of 416-Liberal autopilot)
Richard White
Senior Member
As the saying goes the only poll that matters is the one on election day.