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crs1026
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Toronto1834
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Is this being done in coordination with the new building under construction which forced the closure of the previous connection?
TOareaFan
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Have no idea...but this is the permanent connection that GO(then Metrolinx) have been trying to negotiate for for decades now.
Some would argue they have been too patient and should have gone the expropriation route long ago....but, at least, they are going there now.
thru the building shown here as Crossways.
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steveintoronto
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There's real irony in the timing, as the lot immediately to the north that *used to* host the walkway to Dundas St and to the TTC station has now ripped out the walkway "GO lease expired", and is developing the land, albeit the top six feet has to be removed for reasons of toxicity, and below it remediated in-situ. I would have thought Mlx would have applied for a connection through there, but the loss of the walkway may have put a thrust on the onus to do it through the 2340/50/60 Dundas St W parking sub-floors.
What was truly odd when Mlx lost the walkway was the total lack of on-street signage indicating the need for passengers to walk the long-way round (two choices). Many were left flummoxed on the sidewalk with baggage for the airport. Badly handled by all concerned.
Very interesting news...
Edit to Add: Just reading the posts before this one of mine, but after the post I answered above:
The 'prize' for doing it through the 2340+ property is access to the ends of the TTC Dundas station platforms. They could actually be attained without expropriating Creccal's property, as to why that hasn't been considered is a good question? It would require two short tunnelled horizontal shafts, longer if continued east to further improve access to Bloor GO platforms and entrance from east of the railpath and and wouldn't require expropriation. Will discuss in further detail if anyone wishes.
Since the tunnels would be parallel to the existing rail tunnels to the east of Dundas West station, existing soil assays and utilities would already be documented and predictable. Those rail tunnels were bored almost all the way to Lansdowne, not cut and covered.
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Johnny Au
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Since it's Kirby station, perhaps a giant Kirby statue to grace it?
Elite People
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I am trying to find a way to get a go line running to Peterborough via Scarborough with touching the LE line. Anyone know how?
CapitalSeven
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Call it SmartTrack and it won't need to touch anything - It will float magically and solve all of everyone's problems.
Elite People
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No way, I hate SmartTrack.
steveintoronto
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Actually *NOT* "through the building shown here". The tunnels run under the triple level parking immediately to the north of the building. The ventilation shaft is one of the give-aways, plus close examination of Google Satellite to see the alignment skirting the Dundas West ground level structure and actually clearing the Crossways, but under the parking levels which extend under the surface paved area to adjoin the wall that separates the Crossways property to the northern neighbour.
https://swanboatsteve.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/19900925goconnectionreport.pdf
https://stevemunro.ca/2009/12/31/history-of-the-dundas-west-go-connection/
https://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2011/03/22/go_and_ttc_make_a_connection_at_dundas_west.html
https://stevemunro.ca/2011/03/22/finally-a-dundas-west-go-connection/
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Johnny Au
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The passage can be extended to reach the West Toronto Railpath as well.
steveintoronto
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Beyond it to the east, as a fourth track is being laid that will require the path itself even to move slightly east.
DonValleyRainbow
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Anne Marie Aikins said that, despite these proceedings, they don't hope to take possession until May when they can start construction.
If expropriation doesn't go smoothly, maybe longer.
steveintoronto
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There's been some overlap on this topic in the Pearson Express string.
I spoke with...errr...'someone with authority at The Crossways' (have to leave it at that, don't want the person getting blowback) and their statement is that Crossways *don't own the land immediately north of their actual superstructure!* It is leased "from the City" (possibly meaning TTC). If that is the case "expropriation" takes on a whole easier process.
I'm still digging to verify the claim as fact that can be referenced. If anyone else can dig on this, please do so, some of you are adept at navigating the City's and QP's data-bases.
More on this later...
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Quick Google shows this:
https://stevemunro.ca/2009/12/31/history-of-the-dundas-west-go-connection/
I can't find the where the reference comes from in the above, it may be faulty, and I must run right now. I'll continue later.
"They are still in the hotel business aren’t they?" Is a misleading reference to the building being *zoned* to allow hotel use. It never was used as such.
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Fred.S
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I'm curious about those plans for the connection, is there no elevator or accessible connection planned? Seems a bit of a stretch to me to say that the surface connection satisfies AODA requirements.