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The Latest: Spain’s army expects 2 more outbreaks of virus

The Canadian Press May 8, 2020

MADRID — Spain’s army says it expects two more outbreaks of the coronavirus, according to an internal document seen by The Associated Press.

The army report predicts “two more waves of the epidemic” and Spain will take “between a year and a year-and-a-half to return to normality.”

It says the second wave would be in autumn or winter and possibly less serious than the initial outbreak due to higher immunity in the population.

It adds a possible third wave would be “greatly weakened” if there is a vaccine available next year.

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The Latest: Spain’s army expects 2 more outbreaks of virus

The Latest on the coronavirus pandemic. The new coronavirus causes mild or moderate symptoms for most people. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can cause more severe illness or death.TOP OF THE HOUR:— US approves first at home saliva-based virus...
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Passenger calls out Air Canada for not enforcing social distancing on flight

May 8 2020, 9:24 am

A passenger is calling out Air Canada after boarding a crowded flight, that appears to not show enforced physical distancing measures, even though the airlines said they’re using a “multi-layered approach” to reduce the risk of infection during the COVID-19 pandemic.

On May 4, the passenger posted a photo on social media of a crowded flight she had taken from Toronto to Vancouver on May 1.

“Absolutely full, no social distancing, whereas WestJet has seat distancing,” she said.

“Unbelievably irresponsible and quite terrifying for your passengers. Don’t know why you bothered enforcing social distancing before we boarded.”


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A passenger is calling out Air Canada after boarding a crowded flight, that appears to not show enforced physical distancing measures.
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AlbertC said:
@Admiral Beez

August is still a few months away, but something else to keep in mind if it remains intact:

UK 'to bring in 14-day quarantine' for air passengers

www.bbc.com

UK 'to bring in 14-day quarantine' for air passengers

An airline industry body says it has been told coronavirus quarantining will start from the end of May.
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This. Just this. WTF Britain - they went through Brexit to, apparently, gain more control of their borders and they're only just getting around to it now?!
 
gabe said:
And it looks like the USA is under reporting Covid deaths as they accused China of doing the same.
https://twitter.com/thunderf00t
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U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests (Published 2020)

In seven hard-hit states, total deaths are nearly 50 percent higher than normal, according to new C.D.C. statistics, suggesting that the virus has killed far more people than the number in official counts.
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To be fair to the Americans, the substance is very different.

Deaths in hospitals/LTCs are fairly accurately recorded for the most part.

The more complex issue is what to do with a death at home, where someone did NOT have a Covid diagnosis.

If they are of a certain age, and nothing reads as suspicious, it would be entirely normal not to comprehensively test the deceased for viruses etc.

But then if you don't know, you really shouldn't attribute.

Also the Americans have a terrible system of reporting/recording causes of death; or perhaps more accurately, its good..........but slower than molasses.

From the article:

the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention uses detailed death certificates to code the causes of death for everyone who dies each year in the United States. But that process typically takes more than a year to complete.

Also

In Connecticut, for example, where reported coronavirus deaths are high, the C.D.C. statistics include zero reported deaths from any cause since Feb. 1, because of reporting lags.

Additionally, the situation is made more complex by the fact that there are second-order causes of death, as discussed here, such as delays in surgery, cancer treatment etc, which need to be accounted.

There's no question lots of Americans have died from Covid.

Nor that some Covid deaths (probably in the thousands on the low end) have not been accurately recorded; but that's rather different from the accusations leveled at China.

Which suggest the wilful destruction of pubic health records prior to the WHO's inspection in Wuhan.

There is evidence that China simply fudged the numbers (of the cases they had accurately recorded).

A more useful indictment of the Americans aside from who they elected President, would be that their response strategies were by and large slow and bungled; and were aggravated by a U.S. Health system than isn't a system and whose coverage
gaps almost certainly made problems worse.
 
Northern Light said:
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Understood.

This makes sense really. The rest of the world is reopening and we have been tightly restricted since the middle of March.

People need haircuts, the malls need to reopen and various preventive health appointments need to be undertaken (Dental, Optical, etc).

Closing the economy into June or July isn't really helpful if you want a viable economy left. The commercial wage subsidy is only useful for a month or so but beyond that the levels of debt incurred can be fatal.

Small, medium and even large chain businesses can only survive for so long while hemorrhaging money. Rent costs money and income is finite to the point where it may not be practical to reopen.

We are at the point where the numbers are starting to stabilize and I think politicians are starting to realise that if they don't reopen soon they could have a bigger problem on their hands.

Better to manage the chaos rather than tightly restrict everything and watch your government become the next Bob Rae premiership.
 
Yeah sounds harsh but people have decided they not gonna stay home to save someones, 80-year-old grandpa, for a year.
 
Ok, some very positive numbers today from Ontario on Covid. As always, its only one data point...........long way to go.

First off.......Case growth of 1.8%, lowest yet, since tracking began.

That represents 346 cases, which is the lowest one-day growth since early April.

Recovery climbing faster than new cases, which has been the trend for around a week now, with yesterday being an adverse anomaly.

Total number of active cases is under 4,000, hasn't been this low since mid-April. (more than 3 weeks ago)

Recovered is up to 72.1%

Total testing is up over 19,000 I believe that's a new high.

Number of Covid Patients in Hospital is down 12

Number of Covid Patients in ICU is down 10

Number on Ventilator is down 8

 
Ok.............this made laugh.

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1259091458495336448
 
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