"You don't seem to be swayed by figures so I won't tell how low ridership actually is on some of those Malvern routes."
The only route underpreforming is 132 Milner for obvious reasons. 2/3s of tfhe route runs through wastelands and you rarely ever see it at STC hence people alternately use routes 85 and 133 instead.
"Where are these 100,000 people going to live? The Rouge Park? Squirrels aren't counted in the census."
In spite what you said about Rouge Park's untouchable status, development's already begun. The whole length of Sheppard East from Collins to Meadowvale has new housing springing up, likewise the Morningside Heights area from Staines Rd to Littles Rd. I don't know the exact number of units but the housing scheme stretches up close to the Zoo site so I'm guessing it'd accomodate tens of thousands.
"Subways are perfect for medium-distance trips along dense corridors."
Well since every subway line currently runs through at least one non-dense area, I guess the TTC's imperfect afterall.
"Rouge Hill has a GO stop but you propose a subway there...unlike Old Finch, Lawson, etc."
Port Union/Rogue Hill is the easternmost dense area before the Durham border that could feasibly support a subway. If the Eglinton Line were ever built it'd naturally wind up here following either Lawrence or Lawson via Kingston. I only used Lawson instead for the sake of UTSC students/HC residents.
"Malvern will be served by a midtown GO line but you propose two lines there."
Malvern 'will be served'? Well if you're so certain...
"Centennial GO doesn't change the fact that McCowan is still a busy, nodal corridor that could support a subway,"
The GO stn changes everything, inter-Toronto takes priority for me especially if VIVA, YRT, GO, GO buses, a Don Mills BRT/DRL that would likely run to Markham Municipal (Warden/7), and regional terminal at STC, plus proposed future links each at McCowan North and Sheppard East Stns respectively already well WELL serve this community beyond reason. Lets see, Markham several options, Malvern one, where'd I'd put that subway again, hmm the choices!
"Uh, I do support east/west lines, just not retarded extensions of them to the Zoo. The DRL should get built first, but why do you read that and assume I'm opposed to e/w lines when I've said a few times that we need them?"
You've answered this one for me... "due to geography". The Zoo, Rouge Hill, Long Branch, Scarborough Bluffs (Birchmount), Albion, Pearson, Steeles, and Sherway all recieved subways because there's no where else they could've gone. The DRL would serve an area already within range of subways while two-thirds of Scarborough and Etobicoke let alone 905 suburbs would still have nothing more than a bus. I can understand how terrified you must be to prioritize Eglinton or Queen first though, nothing that obvious would take precedence to close-minded individuals.
"although I'll admit that this plan, ambitious by any realistic standards, pales in comparison to your subway LSD trip."
That left me in stitches :rollin ! We obviously have similar ideas then. DRL wasn't on my map because I thought of it as a BRT route first, not subway, that doesn't mean it's not important to me, just not before border-border subways/RT.
"There's the two One Sherway condos and a Wal-Mart...Vaughan is building more stuff."
So an above ground extension to Sherway, triple times cheaper to build than one to Vaughan shouldn't be considered because there's only 2 condos there?
Alderwood residents shocked to see 990 condos get green light. Feel free to read:
www.skyscrapercity.com/ archive/index.php/index.php?t-220040.html ...nothing stands in the way of progress :evil . Oh and in addition to Walmart there's Best Buy, Winners, Home Sense, Theshoecompany, the Source, etc. (and in the mall itself also Sears, the Bay, Sporting Life, Holt Renfrfew).
"That's actually a much more reasonable idea than the Zoo - it'll pass through Vaughan Mills on the way, and it's only another 5km..."
Here we go again! Now even Major Mackenzie deserves a subway before making most parts of the 416 accessible.
TORONTO's subway system would serve Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughan, Richmond Hill, Markham and now even Maple better than most of the inter-Tornto suburb Scarborough which still gets didly! Another feature of my idea (there's too many to explain in one post) was that the Oakdale Stn right off the 400 would have a BRT running between the Sheppard line, Vaughan Mills and Wonderland during season (yes Scarberiankhatru like the Zoo, Wonderland isn't a year-long trip generator so why does this get a 5 km line and the Zoo doesn't? How you prioritize things is baffling).
"you're not off-base in your thinking (say, unlike socialwoe's subway plans)"
Hey what's that supposed to mean!?!